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Ez2cDave
11-26-2012, 08:19 PM
I am looking to pick up a fully-tested and tuned / adjusted RANGER RCI-2970N2 with E-Chip installed.

What are the best shops and techs to get this item from and what is the best way to contact them?

Thanks, in advance !

Beavis
11-26-2012, 08:33 PM
I would say the best person you can talk to about this is Ghost Rider on here. He loves his N2.

chewwy
11-26-2012, 08:36 PM
I would say the best person you can talk to about this is Ghost Rider on here. He loves his N2.

Came to post the same thing.

Ghost Rider
11-26-2012, 08:39 PM
I bought my "N2" originally at "Coppers Electronics" and it arrived pretty sloppily peaked and tuned. Sent it down to Carle at "Bells CB" and it's now a bad-assed little radio.

Only catch to dealing with "Bells" is that if you want quick service, you had best buy it there. Right now, they're so back-logged with radio repairs that if you send them a radio, you'll be waiting for months to get it back! But if you buy it there, they'll get it tuned and peaked and out the door within a week or two.

You won't be disappointed with the end result, though. Nice radio and Carle does really good work.

Haha!! Yeah....Chewwy and Beavis know how I feel about my "N2".

And a further piece of advice.....If you do get an "N2".....don't put a power mic on it. It's totally NOT NEEDED. I run mine with a 636L w/mic gain set at about 1:00 o'clock and it fuck'n kicks hard!! Also....believe it or not....the "Ranger" stock mic that comes with it is actually pretty damned good, as well.

chewwy
11-26-2012, 08:43 PM
My pc78xl gets fantastic audio reports with perfect modulation, am super happy with it. Got it at dtbradios.

Maybe give him a call, he answers his phone too. Nice guy to work with and I've never heard one bad thing about his shop anywhere on the net.

If you do go his route, make sure you ask him to double box your rig when it ships.

Ez2cDave
11-26-2012, 08:50 PM
Thanks for the info . . . I'll definitely check out those shops.

Do you have LINKS for them ?

Thanks !

chewwy
11-26-2012, 08:54 PM
http://dtbradio.com/catalog/index.php

Ez2cDave
11-26-2012, 08:58 PM
http://dtbradio.com/catalog/index.php

Thank you, sir !

Ghost Rider
11-26-2012, 09:01 PM
www.bellscb.com (http://www.bellscb.com)

Ziploc
11-26-2012, 09:06 PM
Try the modded n4 4 pill

Ez2cDave
11-26-2012, 09:08 PM
www.bellscb.com (http://www.bellscb.com)

Thanks !

Checking out that link now . . .

Ziploc
11-26-2012, 09:12 PM
Rrcom.com prototype.

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It's the n2 with four 2879s

4-400
11-26-2012, 09:21 PM
ghost rider worn out the paint on the top lid on that N2 thing yet?....all that caressing of it will do that you know ...just saying bro :laughing:
yeah they are ok if you like the ranger thing i guess nothing like a "19in rack"..prefer mine to have tits http://www.mauldroppers.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Ghost Rider
11-26-2012, 09:23 PM
ghost rider worn out the paint on the top lid on that N2 thing yet?....all that caressing of it will do that you know ...just saying bro :laughing:
yeah they are ok if you like the ranger thing i guess nothing like a "19in rack"..prefer mine to have tits ;)

Hahaha!!! Damned near! I DO love that fuck'n thing. Remember my motto......

"Ranger makes good shit!" Hahaha!!!

Ziploc
11-26-2012, 09:27 PM
Try the four pill version no comparision

chewwy
11-26-2012, 09:35 PM
Rrcom.com prototype.

Wow! He has a pic of his shop on his website. All I can say is Wow! What a clean looking stocked to the gills shop. Thx for the link.

4-400
11-26-2012, 09:39 PM
some one stop chewwy pleaseeeee!

julthree
11-26-2012, 09:40 PM
I am looking to pick up a fully-tested and tuned / adjusted RANGER RCI-2970N2 with E-Chip installed.

What are the best shops and techs to get this item from and what is the best way to contact them?

Thanks, in advance !Send that thing 2 DAVEY BUPP .....BELLS IS @ HACK JUST WATCH HIS U-TUBE GARBAGE

chewwy
11-26-2012, 09:53 PM
some one stop chewwy pleaseeeee!

Huh?

631
11-26-2012, 10:01 PM
THAT RADIO SUCKS, BUT IT'S OK TO BE GAY IF THAT'S WHAT PLEEZEZ YOU

julthree
11-26-2012, 10:05 PM
I waz much more supple and just called it@ THING

Ez2cDave
11-26-2012, 10:19 PM
Rrcom.com prototype.

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It's the n2 with four 2879s


Is that a factory radio or a mod ?

Cost ? Advantage ?

Who has them or does the mod ?

julthree
11-26-2012, 10:23 PM
Is that a factory radio or a mod ?

Cost ? Advantage ?

Who has them or does the mod ? Here this is a 1 shot deal 4 ya you been warned http://www.cbretards.com/scumbags/scumbags.htm

Ghost Rider
11-26-2012, 10:25 PM
It's a "mod" and I know nothing about them. In fact...I haven't heard anything about them up until this thread. Just keep something in mind....there's already a very famous "Mod" company out there that goes by "Radioactive Radios" and most of us know their reputation. Be very careful of "garage engineers" and all of their promises. It's one thing to "tweak and peak" but it's a whole new ballgame when you're talking about re-engineering a radio. Those guys that design and build them at the factory? They know what they're doing. Even if "Bubba's CB Shack" says differently. Buyer beware.

julthree
11-26-2012, 10:37 PM
Yo dude let DUSTIN & RUSS smoke your radio LolZz....There both low life SCUNBAGz

Ez2cDave
11-26-2012, 10:38 PM
Here this is a 1 shot deal 4 ya you been warned http://www.cbretards.com/scumbags/scumbags.htm

WOW . . . Very SCARY stuff on that site !

I am looking for the best PROFESSIONAL shop to get the radio from, including having it tuned/adjusted for best SAFE performance and modded for 11 meters.

julthree
11-26-2012, 10:40 PM
Just told ya DTB RADIO Davey 4 that type radio

Ez2cDave
11-26-2012, 10:59 PM
Just told ya DTB RADIO Davey 4 that type radio

Is the RCI-2970N4 radio mod done by DTB ? What is the cost of the mod ?

I have been looking at his website and am having a hard time locating specific info about the types of services ans mods he provides.

4-400
11-26-2012, 11:06 PM
Is the RCI-2970N4 radio mod done by DTB ? What is the cost of the mod ?

I have been looking at his website and am having a hard time locating specific info about the types of services ans mods he provides.

flick them a email

chewwy
rrcom are douche bags..read the link http://www.cbretards.com/scumbags/scumbags.htm
just because he has a flash shop and phone numbers and shit does not make a good shop..google them ..stuff about them on heaps of forums.
listen to this crap rig he did for 4040 http://www.cbretards.com/scumbags/4040onR&Rradio.mp3
you be the judge

chewwy
11-26-2012, 11:18 PM
Cool, thx 4-400 for the intel.

Oatmeal
11-26-2012, 11:58 PM
Dont think theres such a shop anymore, is there ?.......

Ez2cDave
11-27-2012, 01:21 AM
flick them a email



I just did . . . Hopefully, I'll get some good info !

nino
11-27-2012, 02:44 AM
I am looking to pick up a fully-tested and tuned / adjusted RANGER RCI-2970N2 with E-Chip installed.

What are the best shops and techs to get this item from and what is the best way to contact them?

Thanks, in advance !
i have learned of and been to bobs cb shop off i-80 in pa. he is a real live tech. he put the irf 520 mosfet in my cobra 25 while I waited! No gimmicks no bs., tuned output and mod then showed it to me on the bird. charged me 40 bucks. he is on the web

Curley
11-27-2012, 06:02 AM
i have learned of and been to bobs cb shop off i-80 in pa. he is a real live tech. he put the irf 520 mosfet in my cobra 25 while I waited! No gimmicks no bs., tuned output and mod then showed it to me on the bird. charged me 40 bucks. he is on the web

Bob is kinda like talking to a wall and has the fu-- you attitude everytime I have been there, And he is a shop that uses the do not remove stickers or warranty void to keep anybody from opening them up to see what he really does to your radio, I have seen 7 different radio's that he has done (new ones) bob is no different from any other road side cb shop trying to make a buck and make LOUD radio's just like the rest seen this first hand and would not recomend him to anybody.

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Bells cb is no different, watck his utube vids and the man dont even set thescope rite in half of his vids and a few he does, but the same results on all flat topped and totally pinched carrier, bells radios can be heard alright, just another side shop trying to make a buck.

543
11-27-2012, 08:55 AM
Bob is a douche bag.

631
11-27-2012, 09:06 AM
I'm happy because I fixed my cobra 29. Needed a new final, audio chip, and modulaton transformer. Motherfucer screms now, cuz I used the better final and audio chip.

631
11-27-2012, 09:19 AM
And I'm extra happy because I didn't send my radio anywhere, pay anybody or rely on anyone else's work. I did it in the comfort of my own room, with parts I had laying around. This hobby is much more rewarding if you learn to do things yourself.

Ghost Rider
11-27-2012, 10:10 AM
And I'm extra happy because I didn't send my radio anywhere, pay anybody or rely on anyone else's work. I did it in the comfort of my own room, with parts I had laying around. This hobby is much more rewarding if you learn to do things yourself.

True enough. But.....most guys just getting into the hobby don't have the knowledge or nerve to try their hand at it. Give it time. Once the bug bites, he'll be slingin' solder with the best of 'em. hahaha!!!! Took me a couple of "cheapie" radios to play around with before I realized that I could do a lot of the work myself.

moonshiner180
11-27-2012, 10:22 AM
if you want a 4 pill and want that style radio, get a 2950 and an amplifier...

Ez2cDave
11-27-2012, 02:43 PM
if you want a 4 pill and want that style radio, get a 2950 and an amplifier...

I have a brand new HURRICANE 350 I bought back in 1990 and never used . . . PICS below !

Ez2cDave
11-27-2012, 02:48 PM
I have the instructions, too . . .11272112731127411275

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My thoughts are that the RCI-2970N2 ( possibly modded with 4 x 2879's ) would give me all of that in a single package .

Thoughts ?

Ez2cDave
11-27-2012, 02:50 PM
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dirtywhiteboy
11-27-2012, 03:17 PM
Call David at DTB Radio in Carlise, period.
In the past twenty years I have dealt with most of the cut and burn shops out there. A few years ago I found David, he's honest and won't bullshit you and one of the last real techs out there. He's a business man that works out of his shop and pays taxes so you won't find him in a van or camper.The best way to contact him is by phone. He's always busy especially with "mail repair"

Ez2cDave
11-27-2012, 04:34 PM
Call David at DTB Radio in Carlise, period.
In the past twenty years I have dealt with most of the cut and burn shops out there. A few years ago I found David, he's honest and won't bullshit you and one of the last real techs out there. He's a business man that works out of his shop and pays taxes so you won't find him in a van or camper.The best way to contact him is by phone. He's always busy especially with "mail repair"

Thank you very much . . . I will definitely call him !

duck429
11-27-2012, 06:24 PM
I have the instructions, too . . .11272112731127411275

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My thoughts are that the RCI-2970N2 ( possibly modded with 4 x 2879's ) would give me all of that in a single package .

Thoughts ?


you must want a toaster oven with knobs and lights on the front?? the 2970N2 is a nice radio the way it is and for what it is designed for...which is a ssb cadilac....they sound very good on am once tuned properly and have the ability to cover a large frequency range....i have had the "N2"...a 2950....the connex versions of this radio also (4600,43-300,43-400).....they pleased me for about a week and then i was looking for a reason to keep them....if you plan to ride around and sit at 140-160 watts and cruise there then the amplified radio is for you....but if your like most of us that want to be heard...get the 2950 version and add an amplifier to that....you will have more wattage and stress on your equipment will be minimal...there is NOTHING wrong with a 2970 N2 if you bounce all over the bands it has and use ssb alot....i like the rci radios....but if you plan to get serious and be heard i would suggest separating the radio and amp....if you want the 2970 with 4 2879s and don't use side band....try and find a connex 43-400 somewhere...i believe they stopped production on these some time back....i had one for a year and was pleased with it for what it was...when you take that much equipment and shove it into a package that small the heat and gremlins show up....if you want all the bells the rci line has to offer they make fine radios...but i would advise against modding the "n2" into 4 2879 radio...just my stupid opinion on the matter....try the 2950 with a 4 pill amp...might "fit the bill" better

julthree
11-27-2012, 06:56 PM
you must want a toaster oven with knobs and lights on the front?? the 2970N2 is a nice radio the way it is and for what it is designed for...which is a ssb cadilac....they sound very good on am once tuned properly and have the ability to cover a large frequency range....i have had the "N2"...a 2950....the connex versions of this radio also (4600,43-300,43-400).....they pleased me for about a week and then i was looking for a reason to keep them....if you plan to ride around and sit at 140-160 watts and cruise there then the amplified radio is for you....but if your like most of us that want to be heard...get the 2950 version and add an amplifier to that....you will have more wattage and stress on your equipment will be minimal...there is NOTHING wrong with a 2970 N2 if you bounce all over the bands it has and use ssb alot....i like the rci radios....but if you plan to get serious and be heard i would suggest separating the radio and amp....if you want the 2970 with 4 2879s and don't use side band....try and find a connex 43-400 somewhere...i believe they stopped production on these some time back....i had one for a year and was pleased with it for what it was...when you take that much equipment and shove it into a package that small the heat and gremlins show up....if you want all the bells the rci line has to offer they make fine radios...but i would advise against modding the "n2" into 4 2879 radio...just my stupid opinion on the matter....try the 2950 with a 4 pill amp...might "fit the bill" better SSB is 4 the = HOMOZzZ

Ghost Rider
11-27-2012, 08:46 PM
Well...if all you're wanting is an "N2" on steroids.....save yourself all the trouble and just buy the"69FFC(B)4"!! 400 watts out of the box and 500 watts after a tuneup. I think right now they're running at around $600.00. A bit pricey but probably a lot cheaper than a "modded" 2970N2.

chewwy
11-27-2012, 10:13 PM
Thank you very much . . . I will definitely call him !

He is a a nice gentleman, very easy to speak with on the phone.

rifleman223
11-27-2012, 10:28 PM
I had a Hurricane years back....

Not a bad little amp. I especially liked the control head feature...

Ez2cDave
11-27-2012, 11:07 PM
I had a Hurricane years back....

Not a bad little amp. I especially liked the control head feature...

I did a little research and found that 9-Pin MOLEX connectors can be used to fabricate a remote cable for the HURRICANE 350.

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I had a Hurricane years back....

Not a bad little amp. I especially liked the control head feature...

I did a little research and found that 9-Pin MOLEX connectors can be used to fabricate a remote cable for the HURRICANE 350.

.

Ez2cDave
11-27-2012, 11:15 PM
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I scanned the instructions . . . Clear and easy to read.

Badnews
11-29-2012, 10:58 AM
I have the instructions, too . . .11272112731127411275

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My thoughts are that the RCI-2970N2 ( possibly modded with 4 x 2879's ) would give me all of that in a single package .

Thoughts ?



The 69FFC4 is a drift box piece of junk and ugly, The 2970n2 mod with 4 pills will ONLY dk on AM around 200-250w and swing to 500, and 500w pep slop bucket for the price tag of around $900.00. The way to make a 2970n2 a 4 pill is to replace the RF section with one from the 69FFC4, Save your money if your into a Ranger product buy the 2970n2 and buy your own chip, Its plug and play and let anyone you trust rape the pots for peak and tune. The so called E-Chip is nothing more then a diode hidden in a case so Ranger can bypass the FCC, and yes Ranger makes the chip it's not aftermarket like they would like you to think.





you can call my number if you feel froggy, so leap bitch


sorry to burst your bubble there mandingo, i don't get pissed off at kindergarten children like you. i honestly get a kick out of watching you people make idiots out of yourself on a public forum. and just to clarify you will be well aware if i get pissed off, and also i'm not a mauldropper i'm a wolf.


great another pissed off mauldropper with a chip on his shoulder... shit's getting old.

rifleman223
11-29-2012, 11:04 AM
Ez2cDave....

Thanks for bringing back the memories of all the fun I had years ago with that amp !!

moonshiner180
11-29-2012, 11:15 AM
when he gets tired of his expensive toaster oven he'll just buy a decent radio and put an amp behind it anyway, i was just trying to help him learn the cheaper way

Ghost Rider
11-29-2012, 10:04 PM
My "N2" will drop the hammer on anyone within 5 miles of me and clog the ears of anyone within 10 miles with crystal clear audio. And that's stock with only a "tweak and peak". We have a local about 30 miles away that runs a 69FFC4 into a piece of shit "Firestick" that's mounted up on a 20' pole (no groundplane) and his signal smokes into the peninsula area. He never runs it above about 300 watts. I don't mention what these radios can do on DX because when the conditions are rolling....you can talk 3000 miles with 10 watts and a piece of wet string as an antenna.

Ranger makes damned good radios. The 2950 has become a legend in its own time. It reached that status for a reason.

Just get yourself a stock "N2" and a high-drive-capable amp and you'll be set. Of course, the downside to most "Ranger" radios is that they don't come with things like echo boards (except the 69FFC4), a decent roger beep nor talkbacks. But as for throwing out a good, clean signal? They're top-notch. Mine tears new assholes on a regular basis. hahaha!!!

Beavis
11-30-2012, 12:05 AM
When I finally get me a base setup, you have me wanting a "N2" with a 4 pill high drive for backup. There's someone on the local craigslist selling a base tower, and this so.b. is huge! He has it labeled as a repeater tower, its 100' tall and it's 12' between the legs!! That's one hell of a tower if you ask me. He's only asking $2500 for it which I don't think is that bad for a tower of that size. Theres only one catch...............its up right now and the buyer's gotta take it down. Talk about a pain in the ass! The link to it is listed below if you wanna see it for yourself. Beavis

http://nwga.craigslist.org/ele/3430729219.html


sent from my DavemadeŽ phone

Badnews
11-30-2012, 01:24 AM
When I finally get me a base setup, you have me wanting a "N2" with a 4 pill high drive for backup. There's someone on the local craigslist selling a base tower, and this so.b. is huge! He has it labeled as a repeater tower, its 100' tall and it's 12' between the legs!! That's one hell of a tower if you ask me. He's only asking $2500 for it which I don't think is that bad for a tower of that size. Theres only one catch...............its up right now and the buyer's gotta take it down. Talk about a pain in the ass! The link to it is listed below if you wanna see it for yourself. Beavis http://nwga.craigslist.org/ele/3430729219.html sent from my DavemadeŽ phone Trust me your better off with a regular N2, There high enough drive the way they are, No such "Factory" radio as a 4 pill N2, IMO $900.00 + for a NON factory N2 is insane. You can get a lot more bang for $900.00 plus FETS are the future and those pills your on your own as no warranty. Another thing to consider is if Ranger wanted the N2 to be this 500 watt radio i am sure they could of figured it out by themselves. The radio is a stock N2 using the RF PcBoard from a 69FFC4. With this said later down the line ranger would maybe make a better high output radio, but atm the 69FFC4 nor the N2 4 pill non factory radio is not the answer, The 69FFC4 is worse then the Siltronix 1011D which was a drift machine, The N2 4 pill non factory wasn't designed for the heat it produces either and the 69FFC4 in chrome or now black is one ugly radio.

Badnews
11-30-2012, 09:01 AM
If you use the 4 pill N2 for base use, Think of the current draw, add that pwr supply to the rig price now your up to 1200.00-1400.00 if you use a worth wild regulated PS! for a non hambone radio which is made in China "Taiwan" and hacked up in the goood ole USA. The power increase from the standard N2 to the 4 pill mod job is that if the person isn't hearing you on the untouched N2 the odds are he isn't going to hear you on the hacked up model either, The 69FFC4 isn't no where near a radio as the 2970N2 and the 69FFC4 frequency coverage isn't like the 2970N2 plus the way both radio's work are totally different. That's why the 69FFC4 is a drift box and usually noticed on SSB as AM is wide in the first place that it isn't noticed that much. It is true the 2970N2 when it comes to noise toys doesn't have it, But if someone needs all these play toys i guess it's great and to there preference, There has only been heterodyne since the mid 50's on 11 mtrs since the FCC took it away from the hambones. This radio not worth the money and which has happened if Ranger can't get the RF Board and something happening there you have a expensive door stop.



you can call my number if you feel froggy, so leap bitch


sorry to burst your bubble there mandingo, i don't get pissed off at kindergarten children like you. i honestly get a kick out of watching you people make idiots out of yourself on a public forum. and just to clarify you will be well aware if i get pissed off, and also i'm not a mauldropper i'm a wolf.


great another pissed off mauldropper with a chip on his shoulder... shit's getting old.

Ghost Rider
11-30-2012, 09:36 AM
I agree with "Badnews". The "N2", the way it's built at the factory, is just fine the way it is. Goes back to what I said previously. Those engineers know what they're doing. All you need is that radio and an amp capable of handling the high output (drive) and you'll be set. And it'll be a whole lot more reliable and probably the same price or cheaper than a radio that's been "hacked" to do something it wasn't meant to do. And yeah.....those big-assed power supplies ain't cheap, either. Hahaha!!!!

Ghost Rider
11-30-2012, 10:02 AM
When I finally get me a base setup, you have me wanting a "N2" with a 4 pill high drive for backup.

You won't regret it, Beavis. They're pretty damned mean radios and "Ranger" quality is legendary. Personally....I wish they were built more in line with the appearance and features of traditional "CBs" but despite looking like something you'ld see in a taxi cab, they get the job done better than most. Hahaha!!!

Ez2cDave
11-30-2012, 02:03 PM
Still here . . . Just been copying the mail - LOL !

I like the RCI-2970N2 a lot . . .

I have a couple of questions:

(1) Can it be modded to increase it's AM Modulation or should I just use my 575-M6 ?

(2) Is it possible and worthwhile to do the Schottky diode mod in the RX section of the radio ?

(3) Any other mods I should consider ?

Thanks . . .

Badnews
11-30-2012, 04:24 PM
Still here . . . Just been copying the mail - LOL !

I like the RCI-2970N2 a lot . . .

I have a couple of questions:

(1) Can it be modded to increase it's AM Modulation or should I just use my 575-M6 ?

(2) Is it possible and worthwhile to do the Schottky diode mod in the RX section of the radio ?

(3) Any other mods I should consider ?

Thanks . . .





IMHO buy the radio from a shop that has been tweaking the stock radio and just enjoy it, I mean a peak and tune is usually only around 30 bux or a tad higher, The E-Chip is a must. Usually they sell it all done up for a set price, Put FORGET about the 4 pill 2879 version all together no matter if Santa did it!. Better yet get the same radio as Ghost Rider has you'll be more then happy, BTW there are two Ghost Riders here so im not talking about GHOSTRIDER all in caps!.



you can call my number if you feel froggy, so leap bitch


sorry to burst your bubble there mandingo, i don't get pissed off at kindergarten children like you. i honestly get a kick out of watching you people make idiots out of yourself on a public forum. and just to clarify you will be well aware if i get pissed off, and also i'm not a mauldropper i'm a wolf.


great another pissed off mauldropper with a chip on his shoulder... shit's getting old.

4-400
11-30-2012, 05:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aejPHMybGlM 69FFC4 look at the scope..over modulated crap...but thats bells "tune"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9VU0OLC6D4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9VU0OLC6D4) 2970N2 again look at the scope..squared off am and ssb audio , modulation on am over
100% negative...spatter box
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am over modulating n2 ssb flattopping n2

IMO both radios dirft (as much as each over) and can easy to be made to scream (without clipping diodes/resistors or crap "npc" mods) but for the money go for the n2 the difference between 250 watts and 400 is half a signal strength..half the current draw...1/3 the heat problems...and half the cost in repairs to the finals when you shit them , ok cost of buying the radio also becomes a factor but at the end of the day if its just shit noise toys you want to buy the 69FFC4 and idle the power back to a real 250 watts and it will last forever (and sound a hell alot better that way) if you want all the extra frequencies buy the n2 ...want more power buy a real amp and or a real antenna system.

bells sells nice radios but i would NEVER get him to truck tune it for you.i am not saying the rigs are crap..far from it just dont get that hack to tune it.
yes i buy personal radios from bells..new and unmodded and then i tune them myself here in our own workshop...after seeing many many of his utube videos it has put me off paying the extra for the "tune" from him

Ez2cDave
11-30-2012, 08:21 PM
IMO both radios drift (as much as each over) and can easy to be made to scream (without clipping diodes/resistors or crap "npc" mods) but for the money go for the n2 the difference between 250 watts and 400 is half a signal strength..half the current draw...1/3 the heat problems...and half the cost in repairs to the finals when you shit them , ok cost of buying the radio also becomes a factor but at the end of the day if its just shit noise toys you want to buy the 69FFC4 and idle the power back to a real 250 watts and it will last forever (and sound a hell alot better that way) if you want all the extra frequencies buy the n2 ...want more power buy a real amp and or a real antenna system.

bells sells nice radios but i would NEVER get him to truck tune it for you.i am not saying the rigs are crap..far from it just don't get that hack to tune it.
yes i buy personal radios from bells..new and un-modded and then i tune them myself here in our own workshop...after seeing many many of his youtube videos it has put me off paying the extra for the "tune" from him

Thanks for the heads-up . . . I lived in western Ft. Lauderdale from the early 1970's, till 1986. I used to go into that shop when it was called BELL'S HI-FI & CB. It was in a small strip mall on Commercial Blvd., just around the corner from where it looks to be located now.

I really like the 2970N2 but now I am torn between the radio with the built-in amp vs. an external amp, since I do have a new, never used HURRICANE 350.

What other radios are worth taking a look at for use with the external amp ?

Thanks !

Ghost Rider
11-30-2012, 08:44 PM
You don't need any extra mods on an "N2" to get it to modulate better on AM. They modulate plenty!

As for "Any other good radios"......yeah....there's LOTS of them! "Cobra", "Stryker" and "Galaxy" make some mighty fine radios, as well. "Magnums" work ok but there's just something about them that doesn't grab me. Can't really put my finger on it.

rifleman223
11-30-2012, 08:58 PM
I really like the 2970N2 but now I am torn between the radio with the built-in amp vs. an external amp, since I do have a new, never used HURRICANE 350.

Just remember... That Hurricane is for use with a CB... NOT a 10 meter radio....

Read what it says on the first page of its manual, right under "Warning" !!

If you hit that Hurricane with too many watts, it will not be worth fixing !!

Ez2cDave
12-01-2012, 02:11 AM
Just remember... That Hurricane is for use with a CB... NOT a 10 meter radio....

Read what it says on the first page of its manual, right under "Warning" !!

If you hit that Hurricane with too many watts, it will not be worth fixing !!




Right you are . . . 11367113681136911370

Beavis
12-01-2012, 11:45 AM
Trust me your better off with a regular N2, There high enough drive the way they are, No such "Factory" radio as a 4 pill N2, IMO $900.00 + for a NON factory N2 is insane. You can get a lot more bang for $900.00 plus FETS are the future and those pills your on your own as no warranty. Another thing to consider is if Ranger wanted the N2 to be this 500 watt radio i am sure they could of figured it out by themselves. The radio is a stock N2 using the RF PcBoard from a 69FFC4. With this said later down the line ranger would maybe make a better high output radio, but atm the 69FFC4 nor the N2 4 pill non factory radio is not the answer, The 69FFC4 is worse then the Siltronix 1011D which was a drift machine, The N2 4 pill non factory wasn't designed for the heat it produces either and the 69FFC4 in chrome or now black is one ugly radio.
I think you miss understood what I was trying to say. What I meant was when I eventually get myself a base system setup I would like to get me a "N2" and also get me a straight 4 pill amp just to use for back-up. If I start to get walked on, I can turn the amp on and start cutting lips!! lol

BTW, Whats up with the freakin huge signature??

MrClean
12-01-2012, 12:34 PM
I am thinking of getting one to drive my big box. 120 or so on ssb and 10 to 40 watts dk 180 or so pep am. Im sure these are easy numbers to get out of one. How big of supply do they take to run. Will my 35 amp do it or do I need my 70 amp to run one?

Ghost Rider
12-01-2012, 03:23 PM
I am thinking of getting one to drive my big box. 120 or so on ssb and 10 to 40 watts dk 180 or so pep am. Im sure these are easy numbers to get out of one. How big of supply do they take to run. Will my 35 amp do it or do I need my 70 amp to run one?

I run mine on a 50Amp. I think a 35Amp is a bit too small. That's the downside to those hi-powered mobiles. They take some hefty power supplies to run them and those can get pricey!

631
12-02-2012, 12:07 AM
shit is gay

mustang 131
12-02-2012, 12:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aejPHMybGlM 69FFC4 look at the scope..over modulated crap...but thats bells "tune"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9VU0OLC6D4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9VU0OLC6D4) 2970N2 again look at the scope..squared off am and ssb audio , modulation on am over
100% negative...spatter box
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am over modulating n2 ssb flattopping n2

IMO both radios dirft (as much as each over) and can easy to be made to scream (without clipping diodes/resistors or crap "npc" mods) but for the money go for the n2 the difference between 250 watts and 400 is half a signal strength..half the current draw...1/3 the heat problems...and half the cost in repairs to the finals when you shit them , ok cost of buying the radio also becomes a factor but at the end of the day if its just shit noise toys you want to buy the 69FFC4 and idle the power back to a real 250 watts and it will last forever (and sound a hell alot better that way) if you want all the extra frequencies buy the n2 ...want more power buy a real amp and or a real antenna system.

bells sells nice radios but i would NEVER get him to truck tune it for you.i am not saying the rigs are crap..far from it just dont get that hack to tune it.
yes i buy personal radios from bells..new and unmodded and then i tune them myself here in our own workshop...after seeing many many of his utube videos it has put me off paying the extra for the "tune" from him


Bet the average cb'er is impressed with the radio and video..Then we get the next thread. "Looking for filter" followed by "My neighbor is really pissing me off"

4-400
12-02-2012, 12:53 AM
Bet the average cb'er is impressed with the radio and video..Then we get the next thread. "Looking for filter" followed by "My neighbor is really pissing me off"


yeap the watt meter has a wow factor for sure ..i just dont get why bells would even bother having a video on YouTube displaying the scope readout when he MUST know its going to put anyone off with more than slight idea on over-modulation=splatter...guess not alot of truckers ever bother to ask what the scope is for or let lone care....at least half the members here have a clue that pinching of the waveform =shit audio.

yes "my neighbor is pissing me off" sounds familiar.....a certain cretin that claims to be running "clean" gear only had that issue..see what it got him both from fcc and on mauldroppers lol

jimmy
12-06-2012, 09:55 PM
finetune cb in amarillo tx is a good shop. the guys name is hard drive. treated me well and really seemed to understand whats going on. i dont know if anybody already mentioned him. i know he used to work out of arizona.

543
12-06-2012, 10:10 PM
finetune cb in amarillo tx is a good shop. the guys name is hard drive. treated me well and really seemed to understand whats going on. i dont know if anybody already mentioned him. i know he used to work out of arizona.

I've heard good things about hard drive. I've heard one radio done by him and it sounded nice and clean. Sounded like he replaced some caps in the audio chain to fatten up the bandwidth too.

jimmy
12-06-2012, 10:15 PM
the only thing is that he hates junk in radios. if he saw a echo board in there wrapped in duct tape it will go in the garbage lol. he is pretty good though and takes radios pretty seriously.

mustang 131
12-06-2012, 10:30 PM
the only thing is that he hates junk in radios. if he saw a echo board in there wrapped in duct tape it will go in the garbage lol. he is pretty good though and takes radios pretty seriously.

A good tech would show you the door with a radio like that.

jimmy
12-06-2012, 10:42 PM
i had him work a northstar bfm and a 29 for me. they worked alot better after he was done. he didnt care much for the northstar . the junk in the radios came up in conversation lol.

Curley
12-09-2012, 11:45 AM
Hard drive is a hell of a tech, he does do a midfi tune by swapping some caps to get the natural sound and is a real smart guy when it comes to tuning a radio, recomend him to anybody wanting it done rite...